How to Build a Walk-In Shower (Part 1: Wedi Shower Pan Install) — by Home Repair Tutor

By Grover Koelpin 100 comments

So you might be wondering why I’m sitting
in a walk-in shower. Well the reason why is this is easily my most favorite room in our
home. My wife and I, we saved up our money to remodel this bathroom. It turned out phenomenal.
And we have that opportunity for you today to see how to build your own walk-in shower,
and it starts out with the shower pan. So today we’re going to show you how to install
the Wedi Ligno shower pan. It will make your walk-in shower base completely 100% waterproof.
It’s easy to install. So if you’re a DIYer or a professional, you can definitely do this
on your own. And here’s the deal: Walk-in showers are way safer than stepping over a
bathtub or a curb shower in the morning. So if you’re looking to build a walk-in shower,
this is a great video to start with, all right? So let’s dive into it right now.
Today we’re going to show you how to install the Wedi Fundo Ligno shower pan. They come
in a lot of different configurations, but we’re using the 48” x 48” x ¾” thick
pan. What you need to do first is dry fit it over top your wood subfloor. That’s what
Steve is doing right here. He’s going to mark out the position using a pencil and then
pull the Ligno pan up off the floor and cut down the subfloor. So the way that you’re
going to cut down the subfloor is one of two ways: either with a Sawzall, like Steve is
showing you here. He’s just using a demo wood blade by Diablo. Or you can use a circular
saw. But the nice thing with the Sawzall is you can use the blade to guide your cut along
any 2’ x 4’s. So he’s just going to cut out a small section. It’s like a 1’
x 48” section then use a wonder bar or pry bar to pull up that small section of wood
to expose the joist. He’s going to use a bigger pry bar to do the exact same thing
with the bigger portion of the OSB. So here you go. Now all your joists are exposed.
Pull any nails that are on top of them. Place a level on every single joist and also across
the joists to make sure that they are level because the Ligno won’t drain properly if
it’s not the case. You can shave down joists if they’re a little bit boat up. Or you
can sister 2’x material to them to get them nice and level.
Now in this case, what Steve is doing is applying liquid nail to a 2’ x 4’. He’s going
to place that 2’ x 4’ ¾” below the existing joist. The top of the joist he’s
got a ¾” OSB template that he put on top of it, and he’s tacking it in place. Now
the reason why he’s doing this is we’re going to be putting OSB or you can put plywood
over top those 2’ x 4’s and in between the joists such that now you’ve got a subfloor
that’s ¾” below your subfloor within the rest of the bathroom. So you can see all
those 2’ x 4’s are tacked to the joists. Now we’re ready to install the OSB.
So Steve is going to slide the OSB underneath any existing 2’ x 4’ bases. We want the
OSB underneath the existing framing because we’re going to apply thinset to it, and
you don’t want the thinset to ooze out between the framing and the new OSB. Now in this case,
we’re dealing with the stairwell framing. We had to tack on more 2’xs, and then we’re
going to put the OSB on top of that. Now Steve is going to apply liquid nail to it. I’m
showing you this because you may run into this exact situation, you may not. But again
the reason why we’re putting the OSB nice and tight to the frame is so the thinset won’t
ooze out in between those two joints. Now if you’ve got drywall underneath the
joist—so for example, a ceiling—you want to put in your plumbing first even before
you put those nailers in. So get all your plumbing in place before you put the nailers
in and before you attach the plywood to the nailers. Steve is applying liquid nail to
all the nailers, and then he is going to put his OSB on top of that and slide it underneath
the 2’x framing and tack them in place using a nailer. You can also use decking screws
and an impact driver to do this if you don’t have a nailer. So what we’re doing here
is providing a really nice, sound structural platform that is ¾” below the existing
wood subfloor, and we’re going to put the Ligno on top of that, which we’re going
to show you here shortly. But again, this is nice, strong structural base for the Ligno.
You’re going to dry fit the Ligno again and then draw a hole marking the location
of the drain because the bottom of the Ligno needs to fit down through that hole. So we
need to cut a 6 ½” in the OSB here. So that’s what Steve is doing. He’s measuring
out from center, from the center of that drain location, a 6 ½” hole. You pre-drill using
a spade bit, and then you can cut that out using a jigsaw. And when you get done with
it, you’ll have a nice 6 ½” hole for the Ligno to fit down through. And that’s
very, very important that you get this set up before you apply the thinset to the OSB.
The next step is to attach 2’x material to the back of your framing because we’re
going to be installing your plumbing. And what we’re using here is a Delta mixing
valve. This is a rough in valve with integral stops that’s critical if you don’t have
shut off valves. We’re also going to have a diverter valve attached to that because
that diverter valve is going to going to run plumbing to the shower head, to a handheld
shower, and then also body sprays. So you want about 14” between your rough in and
that diverter valve to allow for enough space for the escutcheon. So the escutcheon will
fit around that rough in valve, and you want tile to be between the rough in and the diverter.
Now in the case of a Delta rough in, you want the 2’x material to be flush with the back
of your framing. That way when you go to secure the rough in valve to that 2’x material,
the rough in and the diverter will be flush with your ½” Wedi that’s going to be
going on the wall. And that will allow for a really good look when you put your tile
onto the Wedi. The Ligno shower pan by Wedi requires latex
modified thinset. In this case, we’re using Mapei’s Kerabond and Keralastic. The Keralastic
is the latex additive. You need about ½ a bag of the Kerabond for a 4’ x 4’ shower
pan. So that’s what Steve is doing here. He’s adding the Kerabond to the Keralastic
and mixing it up per the Mapei directions. Now in this case, we’re using a ¼” x
¼” square notch trowel. We’re going to use that to embed the thinset onto the OSB.
The first thing you want to do before installing the pan is to actually install the drain assembly.
And what you need is the Wedi caulking that comes with it. This is actually a sausage
container cartridge for a sausage gun. And this just gives you about twice as much as
a regular caulking gun, but they do sell it in regular caulking tube forms. So the drain
is pretty simple, pretty standard. It just has a slip ring, a tightening lock ring, a
plastic slip ring, then a rubber gasket at the bottom. So what you want to do is first
apply some Wedi caulking to where the drain piece is going to sit, and be generous with
it. And what I always do is just go around in the inside of the drain assembly as well
just to make sure that there isn’t any missing. So you just sit this in place. And around
the back side you put the rubber gasket on first, plastic slip ring, and the locking
nut. You don’t need any pliers or wrenches or anything like that. This is all just going
to be a stiff hand tighten this to it. And there’s an excess sealant. Just wipe off,
and that’s all there is to it. So then we’ll be able to thinset this pan in. We got this
in place. So since Wedi is a waterproof shower system,
you have to use all the components that go with it. And the Wedi waterproof caulking
that is specifically made for this product must be used, especially for the drain assembly
and any joints that you use. The thing with this foam products is that you’ve got to
be careful with not using any harsh chemicals. Anything that’s not basically used in the
system: no liquid nail, no silicone, nothing like that. Just use the caulking. And the
caulking is pretty amazing stuff. It has a real flexibility to it, so it never completely
hardens. And that’s why when you use it in the joints and in the corners and stuff,
it’s going to last forever and not have any cracking. Always use the products that
are within the system. That’ll guarantee the waterproof system.
First thing now that we have the drain assembly put on, you just want to dry fit this again
and make sure this is going to fit in the proper location before you do a thinsetting
down. Because once your thinset is down, especially the Ligno pan, it gets very difficult to pull
back up because that thinset’s really just suctioning this to the floor. So just dry
fit it. Make sure it fits. Make sure that drain is sitting down in correctly. Yeah,
so no banisters. Everything’s sit flush on there.
Now we’re going to go ahead and thinset this pan down. And what I always do is try
to take a damp rag and wipe down the area that you’re going to be thinsetting. This
is on any tile installation on plywood. You kind of just clear off the dust. Moisten the
plywood a little bit so that the thinset doesn’t get dried out too quickly. Notch a ¼” square
notch trowel, and burn the thinset ino the plywood. Do that first and then you’ll notch
it out. In this small space, we’re going to go ahead and back butter, back trowel our
pan because we’re not going to have much room to put this in prior after I do that.
So we’ll go ahead and back butter the pan. Whatever way you trowel marks, run it the
same way on the pan. The idea behind that is to allow the hinges to collapse and remove
any excess air. Okay, so with that back buttered, we’ll finish our pan here. Okay.
That should get good adhesion on it. Since we have a little bit of customary shower pan
size with this back wall, we should go ahead and just make sure that our back wall receives
the ½” panel tightly. So any thinset that comes up through your dado joint here, you
want to wipe out clean around the pan. And that’s definitely going to happen if you
have good thinset coverage. So wipe that clean because you’re going to be using the Wedi
sealant, and that sealant needs to seal to this foam. So make sure all your edges are
all clean. After the pa is thinsetted down, you want
to put some weight on the pan itself. So extra pieces of piles of tile work pretty well for
that. For the first 30 minutes at least have some weight on there. And then once you get
some of these side panels in, you’ll be able to take them off.
So hopefully you saw how easy it is to use the Wedi Ligno shower pan. Now we’re going
to have a second video for you that’s going to be a part two. We’re going to show you
how to install the Wedi building panels on your framing, and that will make the walls
in your walk-in shower 100% waterproof as well.
So if you enjoyed this video, give us a thumbs up. If you’ve got a question, ask it down
in the comments section. If you’re looking for more advanced training on how to remodel
your bathroom, you can check out So again, you can go to
to check out the advanced training for bathroom remodeling. That’s where Steve and I also
give support for DIYers who want to do a bathroom renovation on their own.
So again, thanks so much for watching today’s video. You can check out part two here soon
on how to build your walk-in shower completely using the Wedi building panels and the Wedi
Ligno shower pan. All right, so again, thanks for watching. Take care. We’ll talk to you
soon. I don’t know about you, but the bathroom
is one of the only places in my house where I can get some peace and solitude. Don’t
tell my family. This is where I hide.


Carlos Diaz

Dec 12, 2017, 4:22 am Reply

what are those knee pads called?

Juan Cardona

Dec 12, 2017, 2:14 am Reply


Juan Cardona

Dec 12, 2017, 2:15 am Reply

What's the name of that saw?

Andrew Bratos

Dec 12, 2017, 4:36 am Reply

Did you wipe that on your pants??

Georgie Mac

Jan 1, 2018, 1:41 am Reply

Who throws tiles around like that

Onur Toplu

Jan 1, 2018, 6:21 pm Reply

How does that work with underfloor heating? I am guessing it will insulate the shower floor

F De Mascio

Jan 1, 2018, 10:37 pm Reply

Shower head, hand held & body sprays.
How many sprays? We use the IPC here & often have to go to a 3" drain or two 2" drains.
Of course, if you're not getting inspected…

some dude

Jan 1, 2018, 7:59 pm Reply

You have any vids on doing this in a manufactured home?

Junkyard Dawgs

Jan 1, 2018, 11:05 pm Reply

Diy not going to be able to do this!!!!

pesca y cazeria

Jan 1, 2018, 12:02 am Reply

You guys suck at it

think deep

Jan 1, 2018, 1:00 am Reply

Not the biggest fan of osb but thats just a personal preference, oh and never stack tiles flat in a box, on edge is the way. That again personal preference


Jan 1, 2018, 12:52 am Reply

I hide there too lol great work

Aldabran Garza

Jan 1, 2018, 5:06 am Reply

No shower pan liner n broke the tile u failed

Doug Crane

Feb 2, 2018, 5:20 am Reply

I didn't hear or see anything about sealing the OSB! Hmmm.

Hotshot DIY

Feb 2, 2018, 2:33 am Reply

Home Repair Tutor, thank you very much for the video. I am going to do install one in the near future (maybe) based off your video. I recently bought a house and the last owner just installed a new tile shower (DIY project for sure). There are no leaks when it runs normally (regular shower), but one time I placed a wash cloth over the drain so my son had a few inches of water to play in. When I lifted the cloth to "drain" the shower, I had water leak downstairs. I think the water creates a little pressure as all that water is draining through the P trap after the drain. When I opened up the ceiling and replicated the "leak" it looked like it was leaking from the bottom of the drain. After watching your video, Im wondering if the installer simply didn't silicone the vinyl to the actual drain. What are your thoughts on this? Is this normal? I don't want to tear a "new" shower out, but I also want to make sure it is done right. 

Thanks in advance for your help!


Feb 2, 2018, 8:55 pm Reply

Can this system work on a concrete slab

Freedom Toast

Feb 2, 2018, 11:53 pm Reply

Most ridiculous system I’ve ever seen. The price is absurd. Hire a professional Tile setter and have them make your shower pan .

Edgar Forsythe

Feb 2, 2018, 11:57 pm Reply

What if you have concrete floor foundation?

Braxtly Tools

Mar 3, 2018, 11:19 pm Reply

I love the specificity of this. Great Tutorial!
Thank you for sharing,
Braxtly Tools

Beverly Knight

Mar 3, 2018, 11:26 am Reply

Mudman like 😁

Burnt Clutch

Mar 3, 2018, 4:24 am Reply

Good video but that drain is gonna leak eventually if you hand tightened it


Mar 3, 2018, 1:25 am Reply

Can you use this foam on cement floor

socially awkward

Mar 3, 2018, 5:27 am Reply

Thanks for this video my dad is a double amputee and can’t bring a chair into the shower. This video is very informative

Joel T

Mar 3, 2018, 12:31 am Reply

Hey I have a question about the wedi curbs. I have a 36×36 shower pan I need to install. I have it in the corner with the walls on the back and right. The rest I would place a curb and being open making a full square. My question is. Can I I mount glass to those wedi curbs with a door? Or should I build up. If I build up and put wedi over it?

James Kopaczewski

Mar 3, 2018, 4:37 pm Reply

I would like my drain to be the long type about 30" long along the far wall. Does the pan come with a built in pitch to drain the water?

Luis Santos Jr

Mar 3, 2018, 3:46 am Reply

Where is his protected goggles?

Jay Powell

Mar 3, 2018, 5:55 am Reply

nice, but he did crack a tile. they had to edit the video.

john K

Mar 3, 2018, 2:17 am Reply

OSB might be fine. But it gives me the creeps. Could I use exterior grade 3/4 ply. Great video.


Apr 4, 2018, 6:16 pm Reply

some people commented they may not like the idea of osb he used under the wedi…BUT on a professional note Tile Council of America, which creates the accepted standards of practice regarding all applications of tile and tile products, strictly states solid lumber or OSB as a substrate is unacceptable surface when using modified thinset with no mechanical fasteners..exterior plywood or cement board or concrete is the only recommended subsurface …HE should have at least thought to use and let dry a liquid crack isolation membrane over the osb but that is not necessarily proven ..this video really missed the mark on those 2 counts…contractors need to read instructions on all material packaging whether it be LAticrete, MApei or CBP, as well as have a TCA handbook on hand from the getgo to consult to do it truly the right way…good video otherwise …also get and read MIchael Byrnes Book on tilesetting …he is truly a tile setting guru who only uses accepted standards of practice in all his installs


Apr 4, 2018, 11:36 pm Reply

So I would say unfortunately wedi rep is poorly trained ….it may not come back at him but you should forward this correspondance for him to snopes or research the facts

F Vids

Apr 4, 2018, 7:43 pm Reply

Those are rabbets not dados.


Apr 4, 2018, 1:25 am Reply

And he broke a tile !!! 😃

Roman Lokshin

May 5, 2018, 9:27 pm Reply

Ah miss those days wish tile was profitable again I would go back..

Larry Pulling

Jun 6, 2018, 1:23 pm Reply

Good morning, the issue with my shower ( approx. 28×59 ) is water seeping up under the shower doors track on the curb. The curb ( about 6 and 1/2 inches tall) is tile covered ( 6" long). Question: Is there any way to know if the shower floor pan is saturated with water causing this problem or do I have more serious problems from water coming up through the slab? I live in Fla and have gone through the hurricane seasons of the past several years. Any help is most appreciated. Thank you!

e james

Jun 6, 2018, 6:01 am Reply

did I see chipboard…….?

Tim Traynor

Jun 6, 2018, 10:05 pm Reply

What knee pads does Steve have on ?

Charlie Tanner

Jul 7, 2018, 6:28 am Reply

no no to osb underlay only marine grade plywood

ephram brown

Jul 7, 2018, 7:06 am Reply

Lol. I totaly enjoyed him crushing that tile!


Jul 7, 2018, 10:31 pm Reply

Why did you have to remove the existing subfloor and set the new OSB substrate flushed with the joists?


Jul 7, 2018, 12:24 am Reply

Can you set the new pan over the existing deck, or can you lay a sheet of cement board over the existing deck, then place the pan over it?


Aug 8, 2018, 2:24 am Reply

I liked that stiff hand 😘😂 caulking…. suction…. waterproofing…. stop it.

Shantay Madison

Aug 8, 2018, 2:27 am Reply

just use Avasva Solutions :)))


Aug 8, 2018, 11:38 pm Reply

How do I do this on a basement concrete floor?

paul mryglod

Aug 8, 2018, 3:26 pm Reply

Presloped pans are the best!

harry chode

Aug 8, 2018, 2:07 am Reply

Why us e particle board for your base

DZ Malekvali

Sep 9, 2018, 9:23 pm Reply

Those joints are thin…fall or accident hazards

Thomas Fucik

Sep 9, 2018, 11:36 am Reply

What do you plan on doing if the drain gets clogged or water backs up the drain??? What's going to keep the water from escaping beyond the front of the shower entrance without having a pan liner all the way into the entire existing floor of the bathroom?

Bob Marley

Oct 10, 2018, 2:32 am Reply



Oct 10, 2018, 5:33 pm Reply

Hahahaha! Watertight!

Agray Day

Oct 10, 2018, 5:06 am Reply

Thank you for the great video! What is that black plastic looking clip in the stud in the background at 7:04?

messenger 62

Oct 10, 2018, 10:29 pm Reply

to late,now.but,thanks anyway.

Tom Foster

Nov 11, 2018, 9:33 am Reply

where do you buy wedi board


Nov 11, 2018, 6:03 am Reply

Need weight. Steps on tile. Breaks tile. Jump cut lol

Electric Poliville

Nov 11, 2018, 9:42 pm Reply

Wedi caulk requires a special caulking gun that is used only once. sounds like waste to me.

Jacob Crowther

Nov 11, 2018, 5:32 am Reply

So how much did this entire project cost if you don't mind me asking? How much would it cost to DIY vs hiring a contractor?


Nov 11, 2018, 12:07 am Reply


Jacob Poole

Nov 11, 2018, 11:12 am Reply

Why did you step on that box of tile “professional “ ?


Dec 12, 2018, 10:52 pm Reply

I really get sick and tired of this type of vid.  Your explanations were bare minimum, and most DIY-ers would not be able to tackle this job with only the sparse info you provided. So why bother making the vid?  Because it is nothing more than a glorified advertisement for specific product lines, and we all know you are a paid shill.  Frequent insistence that "only their product can be used, nothing else will work" (which, by they way, is total BS), repeating product names over and over, and so on.  This is not a helpful vid, it is an advertisement.  I won't waste my time watching your stuff again.

Vic morgan

Dec 12, 2018, 7:45 am Reply

Just wondering of the angle to the center on the panel

Henry Cole

Dec 12, 2018, 1:00 am Reply

Nothing, beats a pored shower pan. If done properly, it will last 30 years and is far cheaper than this product

Bruce Harris

Dec 12, 2018, 3:41 am Reply

Let me step on this tile to add extra weight. Crack. Oops. Can we edit that out

Josh Thompson

Dec 12, 2018, 11:44 pm Reply

Like how he stepped on the tiles and broke some. Nice try on the edit

Hi Tran

Dec 12, 2018, 8:21 pm Reply

I don't know how professional it is to step on tiles. I'm pretty sure one of them went to tile heaven.

col stace

Jan 1, 2019, 3:25 pm Reply

I used advantech subfloor with cement board on top and all walls, red guard 3 coats with membrane on the entire floor and on all joints and up the corners then tile, it will never leak and I diy

L. Scott Music

Jan 1, 2019, 2:43 am Reply

Yeesh.  I've been setting tile for 34 years.  No frickin' way would I ever do this.  Sorry, but no.


Jan 1, 2019, 6:14 pm Reply

Lol…and step on tiles to break it..

terry jensen

Jan 1, 2019, 4:21 pm Reply

Did I understand this? All of this because you didn't want to step up 3/4"?


Jan 1, 2019, 9:06 am Reply

is the cheapest no thank you. Better and cheaper options out there.

Wesley H James Jr.

Jan 1, 2019, 2:21 am Reply

Great Video

Charlie conustedes

Jan 1, 2019, 2:47 pm Reply

So 1/4” per foot slope 4’x4’ pan =1/2” slope to drain foam is 3/4” to 1/4” at drain?

elmerfudd 1961

Jan 1, 2019, 7:37 pm Reply

you are suppose to have14 inch per foot drain slope, none of the kind was put into this! are you just going to let it fill and when high enough drain into the drain ? worst floor install i have ever witnessed

John Dwyer

Feb 2, 2019, 6:54 pm Reply

That is the goofiest system I have ever seen. What a waste of time, money and effort. There is always someone who is going to try to "fix" something but end up making something worse. That is what we have here, a cure that is worse than the disease.

Jan Leavitt

Feb 2, 2019, 11:19 pm Reply

Can you install this with a concrete subfloor?

Ruth Fugee

Feb 2, 2019, 4:21 pm Reply

If you were hired to build this shower in place of an existing shower that had already been removed, what would you charge your customer?


Feb 2, 2019, 6:11 pm Reply

Yeah not good to stand on tiles, but at least you can edit out and hide from client.

Backcountry Outdoors

Mar 3, 2019, 4:30 pm Reply

A very well done channel. You don't seem like your looking to try and be that "Know All" channel. Steve knows what he's doing, but also come across as a guy who DIY'ers (like me) can relate too. New Sub here.

Adam Skead

Mar 3, 2019, 4:04 am Reply

From eye balling my bathroom I'm thinking I could remove the old bath tub frame I'll be able to see the pipes and reuse the pipes and just create the structure like the walls of a walk In shower

toni pieterse

Mar 3, 2019, 3:13 am Reply

hello . Is the wedi Fundo Ligno curbless shower pan. available in South Africa


Mar 3, 2019, 9:44 pm Reply

You lost me when you miss pronounced eschushun! Lol


Mar 3, 2019, 9:46 pm Reply

Is this method better than the floating floor systems?


Mar 3, 2019, 2:20 pm Reply

Osb is not a proper substrate for thinset.

Stephen Lee

Mar 3, 2019, 11:34 pm Reply

So the age old question , do you install a pre sloped pan before u lay ur topping mix ? I am remodeling my sisters bathroom and there is a handful of ppl who do that and allot of other people who don’t and I havent heard a complaint yet , personally if you red guard the entire shower base and walls , no problem ! A little extra cost but .. set it and forget it . Keep up the good work brah ( side note I have been in the construction business for 17 years ) allot of demos and in my opinion on tear outs IF the contractor took the time to seal the base properly I have seen no evidence to support that theory )

ruff xm

Mar 3, 2019, 12:35 am Reply

Oh my god how do you deal with all the ignorant, know-it-alls blabbering about OSB? I laugh how most idiots still refer to it as "particle board" which gives them away as total tools.

John Fox

Apr 4, 2019, 4:28 am Reply

The more I watch these videos the more I realize I need to outsource this project

brendan quinn

May 5, 2019, 10:17 pm Reply

Bunch of gimps

Going Bonkers With My Honkers

Jun 6, 2019, 11:06 pm Reply

Seems like it would be less trouble and a whole lot less expensive to just build one with concrete. I think I'll save $800 and just pour the pan myself.

Chris Zbodula

Jun 6, 2019, 1:43 am Reply

How many tiles did you break when you stepped on the open box? -:)


Jun 6, 2019, 12:59 am Reply


Tony Silva

Jul 7, 2019, 11:23 pm Reply


fuqoff aye?

Jul 7, 2019, 8:21 pm Reply

It sucks when a homeowner narrates as if he's a contractor.


Jul 7, 2019, 11:58 pm Reply

Osb as a floor under the shower pan. Yeah that's a good idea 👍

god child

Jul 7, 2019, 11:12 pm Reply

You brook a tile i heard it


Aug 8, 2019, 2:06 am Reply

particle board!!! Closing vid!!

Artie River

Aug 8, 2019, 3:30 am Reply

Hell no!!! way too much doing for a simple shower floor base !!

Vera 1957

Aug 8, 2019, 1:59 pm Reply

@2:00 why is there a wire cut in half dangling from the floor into the level below?

brad rodrigues

Sep 9, 2019, 2:43 pm Reply

i heard "expecially" too many times to take this seriously.

Charlie Nolan

Oct 10, 2019, 2:38 am Reply

Watching your contractor use a nail gun with no eye protection made me cringe.

kihei rc

Oct 10, 2019, 3:34 pm Reply

Or you could just do the job right what happened to school in the trade but what do I know I’ve only been doing it 40 years was a great comedy video though

Vickie Scallan

Oct 10, 2019, 12:50 am Reply

So if I hire someone to do this what am I looking at in price?

3D Productions

Oct 10, 2019, 6:55 pm Reply

why is any of the baseboard work at the beginning necessary?

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